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Kirt Blattenberger
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Post subject: Illegal Immigrants
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:34 am
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Greetings: Below is a letter that I just sent to my local newspaper in response
to yet another editorial advocating for illegal immigrants. Please take a moment to
read through it and let me know what you think of my position. *********************
6/25/2007
Greetings Mr. Globe:
In the interest
of full disclosure, please do your readers a service and identify which laws, in addition
to those pertaining to legal immigration, you advocate ignoring at will. The editorial
column in today’s Mt. Airy News clearly apologizes for the 12+ million (many estimate
30+ million) people who have broken federal law by illegally entering the United States
of America. Being printed implies that it represents the view of this newspaper’s management.
Mr. Matthews, per established talking points, does not make the cause and effect link
between explosive Latino population growth and the massive invasion of Latinos (from
Mexico and Central America) across our southern border. His claim of the illegal immigrants
working “often without benefits,” conveniently neglects to mention the healthcare and
education services provided to them by law-abiding citizens and visa holders. Of course
he knows about those and the many other benefits accorded to illegal immigrants, but
his agenda demands that he not mention them. Mr. Matthews, as well as the management
and staff of this newspaper, also are fully aware of the incredible burden placed on
our healthcare, education, and legal systems by illegal immigrants whose liabilities
on society arguably far exceed any assets generated; you have the research data that
supports my claim (it is widely available), but you will not print it.
As an
electrical engineer who has run an engineering website for almost ten years (more than
8,000 worldwide visitors each weekday), I have received e-mails from foreign professionals
lamenting the lengthy process necessary for legal entrance into this great country.
Some practically beg me to use my contacts within the government (of which I have none)
to expedite their H1B visa issuances. Others already here write of the very stringent
limitations placed on them; their freedom of movement is strictly regulated. Those professionals,
evidently as a result of great ignorance in spite of their generally high levels of
education, do not understand why they are being forced to endure the restrictions of
totally legal behavior, while millions of others are basically being offered a free
pass in return for illegal activity. These engineers and scientists I write of submit
to stringent criminal background checks, health screening, and seemingly endless waiting
and bureaucratic red tape, and overwhelmingly desire to gain citizenship based on their
contributions to America. They come here already writing and speaking more proper English
than your average public school graduate. We do not need to provide multilingual signs
and brochures for them, or offer more phone buttons for them to push to hear a message
in their native languages. Those H1B holders are overwhelmingly assets to our nation
because of the rigors of entrance and the talents they bring. When replying to their
letters, I usually (in a darkly joking manner) recommend that they buy a ticket to Mexico
City and simply wade across the Rio Grande.
No reasonable person denies that
the majority of illegal immigrants are hard-working, but then so are the majority of
legal American citizens. Recent instances of raids on businesses where illegal immigrants
dominated the workforce show conclusively that there are plenty of legal citizens available
to do the work. America was built by legal immigrants and citizens. We became the most
productive, most successful, most generous, most desirable country in the world through
the ingenuity and hard work of legal citizens, not because illegal immigrants were sweeping
the floors and picking lettuce while others worked. Anyone who truly believes that Americans
are not capable of functioning without illegal immigrants is not in touch with reality
(possibly from reading too many editorials).
My agenda is clear: I endorse the
enforcement of immigration laws for the sake of national security, economic well-being,
lower crime, lower burdens on education and healthcare systems, and the moral standard
set by illustrating a willingness to reward those who obey laws and punish (or at least
not reward) those who break the laws. What is your agenda?
Sincerely,
Kirt Blattenberger Electrical Engineer RF Café
www.rfcafe.com 184 Westbridge
Place Mt. Airy, NC 27030 336-786-5299 *********************
_________________ - Kirt Blattenberger
RF Cafe Progenitor & Webmaster
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wb9jtk
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:55 am
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Excellent !
Here in southeast Florida there are so many people that say "let
them stay, they just want to work". I am sickened by the phrase "undocumented workers".
That is the term they use to describe people that have proven that they have NO respect
for laws. I am appalled that our government wants to reward criminals when there are
hundreds of millions of people that show respect for the law by NOT invading the USA
illegally.
Kurt, may I use your letter (fully attributed) ?
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Kirt Blattenberger |
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:20 am
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wb9jtk wrote:
Kurt, may I use your letter (fully attributed) ?
Greetings wc9jtk: Yes, you are welcome (even encouraged) to replicate
my letter. Thanks for the compliment. It is utterly perplexing to me how such
blatently illegal activity can be endorsed by politicians - many of whom helped write
the laws that are routinely broken by the illegals. Fortunately, the senators and congressmen
are receiving a tidal wave of correspondence from We the People, and are being told
that their futures in office are in the balance with this one. Interesting that some
of the legislators who you might normally expect to back the amnesty bill are opposing
it; gee, do you think maybe it has something to do with them being up for reelection
in November? Take care.
_________________ - Kirt Blattenberger
RF Cafe Progenitor & Webmaster
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Ralph Zappa
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:46 am
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Hello Kirt, I must join the fray and comment upon the situation here in Jolly
Olde England (forgive my impertinence). The BBC has aired stories on occasion illustrating
the problems we are having with immigrants not assimilating into our society. The Muslins
in particular are transformain sectors of Britain into isolated Arabic towns. We native
citizens recognize the peril we are in by virtue of the terrorist actions and hateful
rhetoric coming from many (but not all) of those communities. Now, I can live peacefully
with anyone, but I and my neighbors do fear that peaceful existence is not exactly what
the radicals have in mind for a relationship with us. History and careful examination
of modern day agendas show that many of those amongst us consider the vast majority
of Europe to lawfully be Islamic territory, by virtue of the Crusades eras. Shockingly,
our media will not acknowledge that in its reporting. France is dealing with
immigration in a surprising but refreshing way - paying people to return to their home
countries. The Frenchies realize the danger their country is in both from a security
and an economic standpoint. Perhaps England should follow suit before something more
serious than another bus bombing occurs. Unfortunately, I do not trust our bought-off
politicians to behave any more responsibly than those you lament over in America. Perhaps
we are all doomed.
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wb9jtk
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:55 pm
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1. We should not even call them "illegal immigrants" because under our laws they are
NOT immigrants because the law requires that they be deported. I believe "illegal alien"
is more correct description. And that is the term we heard in the 80's. Do the newspapers
and TV want to mislead us?
2. I think Kurt did a better job with his letter
(the first post in this forum thread). But here is what I wrote a few weeks ago and
never sent to anyone because I did not feel I did a good job with it.
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Illegal Invaders do NOT want to participate IN the system. For what reason do they
desire to NOT follow the laws for entry into our country? Is it criminal history? contagious
diseases? laziness ?
Why reward a criminal for performing criminal acts for
5 years ? Should we reward drug dealers after 5 years of not getting caught?
Should we give a permit to drive drunk to anyone that can show reasonable evidence that
they have been driving drunk for 5 years ?
If you are working, retired or vacationing
in the U.S. of A. you are either consistently working toward becoming a citizen of my
country or you still pledge allegiance to some other country. In either case, there
must be a registry of persons that will obey, uphold and defend the constitution of
the United States of America and those that have not chosen to do so. How could this
be done? It is called a “passport” !
60 years after the end of the internment
of persons of Japanese descent we still have not learned the importance of knowing who
is devoted to our well-being and who is not. The tragedy of the internment of persons
of Japanese origin or descent is that nearly all of them were here legally and were
dedicated to the improvement of the United States of America.
Compare a person
that stole something for a store 6 years ago with a person that climbed over a fence
into the United States of America at the same time. The shoplifter may have since realized
the act was wrong and has every since been a law-abiding person and a great asset to
our society. Most would agree that to punish the citizen for that one crime 6 years
ago would not benefit society. He has already self-reformed.
However the s.o.b.
that climbed over the fence 6 years ago is by definition NOT a reformed criminal. Every
nano-second that person is in this country he is consciously and intentionally commiting
a crime. Had that person at any time decided to refrain from further criminal behaviour
he would no longer be here.
Do you know an “undocumented worker” ? If the answer
is yes, then you are a criminal. You are an accessory to a crime in progress. Your DUTY
to our country, both morally and legally, is to report the presence of illegal aliens
immediately!
It is my understanding that when being inducted into any branch
of military service (thanks to all of you) that each person swears an oath to uphold,
defend and protect the constitution of the United States of America and to defend us
from all threats 'foreign and domestic'. This is interpreted to mean that all those
that have sworn this oath and know the ongoing existance of any illegal aliens are inherently
a traitor. Anyone that does not report their knowledge of the existence of 'illegal
immigrants' is an accessory to a crime.
Did your grandparents immigrate to the
USA because they wanted to sit on their asses and collect welfare or did they come here
to work ? Before world war 2 there was not yet any large scale government system which
encouraged laziness.
Liberals have destroyed the U.S. work ethic. I think those
that 'support' illegal immigration because 'we need workers' should also support a plan
to export welfare addicts. I cannot afford to support illegal alien workers AND resident
welfare addicts. If you believe this country needs more workers, then we must not reward
those that have not been sharing the burden of confiscatory taxation that we share to
support the welfare addicts.
If we "need these undocumented workers" then we
obviously do not need the unemployment system. If you believe we 'need these workers'
then you surely believe that we should terminate all unemployment benefits immediately.
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Kirt Blattenberger |
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:32 am
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Greetings wb9jtk:
"Why reward a criminal for performing criminal acts for 5
years ? Should we reward drug dealers after 5 years of not getting caught? Should
we give a permit to drive drunk to anyone that can show reasonable evidence that they
have been driving drunk for 5 years ?"
Your letter does quite a fine
job of expressing the rational opinion of the majority of the citizens of this country
- including a large portion of legal immigrants
from Latin America. The above quote from your piece is an apt analogy of the inane notion
of granting legal status to people who have been continually, by definition, breaking
our federal laws from the moment they breached the border.
What person that
supports the amnesty bill would put up with a stranger breaking into his/her home (without
permission) and then setting up housekeeping, having his family live there with him,
availing himself of the owner's medical insurance coverage, sending his kids to the
owner's private school, etc., all at the owner's expense, and then having him claim
a right to stay there indefinitely simply because while there he washed the dishes and
mowed the lawn?
It is a fact that the vast, vast majority of the legislators
who are voting on this bill have not read the contents of it. They might know about
a very small portion that pertains to an amendment that they are supporting, but that's
it. When pressed for details on radio or television, none of the supporters can quote
any specifics.
Our Senators and Congressmen have decided to blatantly ignore
their charge to represent the will "of the people, by the people, and for the people."
They forget that we are a representative republic. Insofar as they might believe we
are a democracy instead, that concept refers to a democracy consisting of 100 isolated
(from their constituents) senators and 435 isolated congressmen.
_________________ - Kirt Blattenberger
RF Cafe Progenitor & Webmaster
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Roger
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:58 am
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Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:36 am Posts: 6
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Kirt et al, I totally agree with you guys. If it wasn't for the concerned citizens
of America there would be 30 million newly minted "citizens" ready to stand in line
with their hands out for newly accorded privileges. Those "hard-working" immigrants
are lurking in the shadows just waiting for getting legally placed on the public dole.
You think out entitlements system is taxed to the limit now, just wait and see if (when)
the illegals finally get citizenship. Bush's "family vaules don't stop at the Rio Grande"
BS is going to kill our economy. Remember that once they become citizens, then
who will do the work they no longer want to do? Employers woun't be able to afford them
because they'll have to get minimum wage, and the same bunch of baffoons in Congress
that want to give them a free pass on their illegally being here, also want to increase
the minimum wage to $8-$10 dollars per hour. Those morons are clearly out only for their
own political gain and couldn't care less what the ultimate impact on the country is.
I am damn sick and tired of every other culture in the world being held up as
if it is something special, while we're not supposed to promote the glory of America
and all the good it has done around the world. Look at the money and lives we've wasted
in Africa and the Middle East where the 5th century Muslims rule. America has paid the
largest price for promoting freedom and democracy in the world. If it wasn't for our
boys, the entire rest of the world would be under Communist and/or Muslim rule.
I'm for calling back most of our troops and gear worldwide and hunkering down inside
our own borders. We have strike capability from space and within hours with our hypersonic
vehicles. There's a lot we don't know about that is probably being kept under wraps
for in case it's ever needed. Let the rest of the world fight amongst itself. They'll
be so busy warring that they will fall apart. BTW, why are
Citgo and Neighbors
gas stations still allowed to operate in America? Here we have Iran's ImInaJihad and
Hugo Chavez in Venezuela swearing a pact against the U.S., and we're still selling gas
at the state-owned oil drilling and processing system (recently confiscated, ala Cuba
with Castro in the 1960s). That is one boycott that could actually work. There are plenty
of other gas stations to use.
Rog
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Cube Slave
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:05 am
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QUITE AN ANALOGY
I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled
it with seed.
Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
But then the birds started
building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the
table...everywhere.
Then some of the birds turned mean: They would dive
bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.
And others birds were boisterous and loud: They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed
at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore.
I took
down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone.
I cleaned up their
mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.
Soon, the
back yard was like it used to be...... quiet, serene and no one demanding their
rights to a free meal.
Now lets see....... our government gives out free food,
subsidized housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born here
to be an automatic citizen.
Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.
Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are
housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor:
yourchild's 2nd grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't
speak English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press "one" to hear
my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than "Old Glory" are squawking
and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
Maybe
it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder.
If you agree, pass
this on.........
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